χριστιανισμος + ιθαγενεις της αμερικης.
μια δηλωση του παπα βενεδικτου σχετικα με την επιβολη του χριστιανισμου στους ιθαγενεις πληθυσμους της λατινικης αμερικης (υποστηριξε πως δεν αποξενωθηκαν απο τον πολιτισμο που ειχαν πριν την ελευση του Κολομβου, καθως η επιβολη του χριστιανισμου δεν ηταν επιβολη μιας ξενης κουλτουρας) ξεσηκωσε πληθος αντιδρασεων στις χωρες αυτες, αναγκαζοντας τον να ζητησει συγνωμη για τα εγκληματα των αποικιοκρατων & για την αστεια δηλωση του...
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(Larry Rohter, The New York Times).
ROME, May 23 — Pope Benedict XVI tried Wednesday to quell anger in South America over his recent comments about the conversion of native populations, conceding that “unjustifiable crimes” were committed in the conquest of the continent 500 years ago.
The pope told a weekly audience here in Italian that it was “not possible to forget the suffering and the injustices inflicted by colonizers against the indigenous population, whose fundamental human rights were often trampled.”
He said in a speech last week in Brazil that native populations had been “silently longing” for the faith colonizers had brought to South America.
He said in the speech, “The proclamation of Jesus and of his Gospel did not at any point involve an alienation of the pre-Columbus cultures, nor was it the imposition of a foreign culture.”
The speech infuriated many South American leaders and indigenous groups, mirroring the broader and more violent reaction last year after the pope quoted a Byzantine emperor as referring to Islam as “evil and inhuman.” These leaders and groups cited the standard historical view that Spanish and Portuguese colonizers forced conversion by giving natives a choice between “the Cross and the sword.”
President Hugo Chávez of Venezuela demanded that the pope apologize, and one indigenous group in Ecuador said, “Representatives of the Catholic Church of those times, with honorable exceptions, were accomplices, deceivers and beneficiaries of one of the most horrific genocides of all humanity.”
But unlike his ultimate apology for his words on Islam, Benedict’s response also repeated his contention that Catholicism in South America had favorably “shaped their culture for 500 years.”
“While we do not overlook the various injustices and sufferings that accompanied colonization, the Gospel has expressed and continues to express the identity of the peoples in this region and provides inspiration to address the challenges of our globalized era,” he told pilgrims in St. Peters’ Square on Wednesday, in English.
In the public audiences on Wednesdays, the pope normally delivers a lengthy address in Italian, with summaries in other languages. The pope’s repetition of his qualification in English seemed to underscore the Vatican’s desire to soften his earlier words.
Responding to the pope, the Confederation of Indigenous Organizations of the Brazilian Amazon, of which Jecinaldo Sateré Mawé is the coordinator, said, “It is arrogant and disrespectful to regard our cultural heritage as inferior.”
In an interview with Folha de São Paulo, Brazil’s largest newspaper, Luiz Felipe de Alencastro, a prominent historian, was even more critical. “The process of colonization was one of destruction of Amerindian culture,” he said. “The missionaries were at the service of a religion that had incorporated the authoritarian and despotic elements of European monarchy.”
After the speech on Islam, and again after the Brazil trip, some critics, as well as some supporters, said the comments by the pope — whose previous career was more concerned with theology than with public policy — indicated he had a deaf ear for the political implications of his words.
His clarification on Wednesday echoed an apology the Roman Catholic Church made in Brazil in 2000 for “sins and errors” committed against native populations and blacks there over the preceding 500 years.
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(Larry Rohter, The New York Times).
ROME, May 23 — Pope Benedict XVI tried Wednesday to quell anger in South America over his recent comments about the conversion of native populations, conceding that “unjustifiable crimes” were committed in the conquest of the continent 500 years ago.
The pope told a weekly audience here in Italian that it was “not possible to forget the suffering and the injustices inflicted by colonizers against the indigenous population, whose fundamental human rights were often trampled.”
He said in a speech last week in Brazil that native populations had been “silently longing” for the faith colonizers had brought to South America.
He said in the speech, “The proclamation of Jesus and of his Gospel did not at any point involve an alienation of the pre-Columbus cultures, nor was it the imposition of a foreign culture.”
The speech infuriated many South American leaders and indigenous groups, mirroring the broader and more violent reaction last year after the pope quoted a Byzantine emperor as referring to Islam as “evil and inhuman.” These leaders and groups cited the standard historical view that Spanish and Portuguese colonizers forced conversion by giving natives a choice between “the Cross and the sword.”
President Hugo Chávez of Venezuela demanded that the pope apologize, and one indigenous group in Ecuador said, “Representatives of the Catholic Church of those times, with honorable exceptions, were accomplices, deceivers and beneficiaries of one of the most horrific genocides of all humanity.”
But unlike his ultimate apology for his words on Islam, Benedict’s response also repeated his contention that Catholicism in South America had favorably “shaped their culture for 500 years.”
“While we do not overlook the various injustices and sufferings that accompanied colonization, the Gospel has expressed and continues to express the identity of the peoples in this region and provides inspiration to address the challenges of our globalized era,” he told pilgrims in St. Peters’ Square on Wednesday, in English.
In the public audiences on Wednesdays, the pope normally delivers a lengthy address in Italian, with summaries in other languages. The pope’s repetition of his qualification in English seemed to underscore the Vatican’s desire to soften his earlier words.
Responding to the pope, the Confederation of Indigenous Organizations of the Brazilian Amazon, of which Jecinaldo Sateré Mawé is the coordinator, said, “It is arrogant and disrespectful to regard our cultural heritage as inferior.”
In an interview with Folha de São Paulo, Brazil’s largest newspaper, Luiz Felipe de Alencastro, a prominent historian, was even more critical. “The process of colonization was one of destruction of Amerindian culture,” he said. “The missionaries were at the service of a religion that had incorporated the authoritarian and despotic elements of European monarchy.”
After the speech on Islam, and again after the Brazil trip, some critics, as well as some supporters, said the comments by the pope — whose previous career was more concerned with theology than with public policy — indicated he had a deaf ear for the political implications of his words.
His clarification on Wednesday echoed an apology the Roman Catholic Church made in Brazil in 2000 for “sins and errors” committed against native populations and blacks there over the preceding 500 years.
3 comments:
Πως μπόρει να είναι τωσο μορφωμένοι οι Έλληνες άμα ισχούν οτι κρυολόγημα
απο κρύο. Δημοκρατία είναι Εβραήκη σαχλαμάρα, Αριστογείτων ήταν Εβραίος σπιούνος. Νεσελρώδης, Μεταρνήχης, Δισραήλης και Κισιντσέρης, άθειοι Εβραίοι, ήταν οι μεγάλοι αντίπαλοι Ελληνηκής ανεξαρτησίας. Απορρίπτωντας προπατορικό αμάρτιμα γεννοβόλισε τον κουμουνισμό. Aρχωντες Κωνσταντινοπόλεως είναι πόλιτβουρο Ελλήνων. Γκορβατσώφ έχει σημείο αντιχρίστου στο προσκέφαλο αλλα τον κάνατε Aρχων. Aρχων Σαρβάνης έστηλε εργασίες Καθολικών εις Ινδία να εκδικιθή σατανοσέρβους. Αμερική ο μέγα σατανάς, Ισραήλ μάνα και Ελλάς πατέρας του σατανά. Στραβώντας μαρτύρισε οι πορνοδιονυσιακή βρεφοκτωνία έσβησε τον Ελληνισμό, και ο Φαλμαράχης απέδειξε οτι οι σημερινοί Έλληνες είναι ολλοι Aλβανοί απόγονοι Πελασγίων.
οτι να 'ναι...
Got Pope, Need No Bart charliepatseas@yahoo.com Flushing NY
The Holy Father gone to Turkey to redeem and consecrate the Greeks,
so don't need no more soviet temples. Don't need no gyro blimpie Bart
when got a regular Pope without the diner attitude. My pop kept
hitting momma with a skillet on the head. Friends ended up in the
hospital after their pop beat them. Pops got drunk and ruined my
first car. Killed two cats and a dog, thrown out the window.
Neighbor drowned the canaries in ouzo, lit, ate them. Ma overdid
whip so she could give less pie. All our stuff came pilfered, with
logos. Greeks overcook all meat so no one knows is bad. Another
banned tenants flushing toilet paper. Waiters inpune sanitation
because "dirty is natural and healthy." Priests just answered "behave,
respect, tradition!" Now priest comes "no intercommunion!" Where was
he when we needed him to protect us from our crazy parents? Don't
sell me "educated Greeks" because we know all them Trojan Horse
cheated on the exams. Besides it's just TV repair school. Remember
all those jailed old disco Greeks, tax cheats to "protest" Jerome Ford
stopping the Trojan Horse in Chyprious? We can't get good jobs
because no one trusts Greeks, because of Trojan Horse. They always
faked reading Greek. That's why we borrowed regular Catholic books
instead of read Greek. Sure, we sacrifice to Greek myths three times
a year to please yiayia, and she's nun the wiser when we go to regular
Catholic Mass on Sundays when she bummed from bouzaki dances. Ain't
need no more Bart, just the regular Pope. That's why we all married
regular Catholic when we grew up. So they can trust us.
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